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Poster: William Tell Date: Apr 23, 2009 7:57pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: venting(the dead related)

I posted this elsewhere, but fits here: "Yeah, I suppose if we saw pics showing that everyone picked up after WoodStock, or the many Days on the Green or Winterland shows, what happened at this DEAD show might be a story (ie, we all lived up to the myth back then of Children of the Garden or whatever it was...) but between all the puke on my sleeping bag (generally not my own or my girlfriends), trash in the lot, etc., etc., I suppose it never occurred to me that "we" were better or worse than any other group, new or old DEADHEADs.

It might have even been silly to imagine it otherwise, right? No matter what the "average outlook" of a group might be, when the group is out for a good time, ingesting any number of substances that might preclude clear thinking and good deed doing, it just might not be the right context for good behavior. Or, we are just hypocrites as you note, GC.

Maybe, but maybe not, if it was "posted" that there was a "clean up day" following a concert by the DEAD would we find that all of us, here, LMA, etc., or at least more than the Bills fans (?) would show up to do the right thing?...I am not even sure that was true then, or today. And I defn don't know if it is LESS true today..."

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Poster: spacedface Date: Apr 23, 2009 11:19pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: venting(the dead related)

I think by the late 80s things had changed. Maybe it was just the bigger crowds, or that Bill Graham owned Shoreline, but he would be there himself with a trash bag picking up just after a show.

Mmm, no, the above is part of it but the crowds seemed pushier. And even being inside the show very early didn't mean you could get a decent seat. In the latter days., people thought they could save vast tracts of seats for people who wouldn't come for hours.